Dark_Hero on 2011-12-21 09:04:00
Finally the timeline was reveled!!!! There are a few details that doesn't fit from my point of view, for example: There is a timeline in wich the Hero of Time Fails? Oracle Series between A Link to the Past and Link's Awakening? Sounds kind of odd to me. But I supose itīs our duty as Zelda fandom to clear out the timeline now that we know specific order (acording to a canonical source)
Reposiric on 2011-12-21 09:09:00
Wow, that's really exciting. I will DEFINITELY be getting that book...that's really awesome...
However, I'm not very happy with that timeline. xD The other one makes more sense...Maybe I'm looking at it wrong, but I can't see how A Link to the Past would come after a world where Ganon defeated Link...Wouldn't the world already be in darkness?
Also, about that, I don't like there even being a "Link fails" timeline. lol Not because of some fanboy reason where I'm saying Link can't die, but because we didn't get to experience that in the game, so it didn't happen. It's sorta cheating. Everyone's been throwing around all these awesome timeline ideas, and no one would have been able to say that because nothing points to it at all. >_<...unless I'm looking at it wrong.
Scotterwho on 2011-12-21 09:22:00
A Link to the Past states that Ganon won and that's how the Dark World was created, does it not? That makes sense that there is a timeline where Link fails then.
Reposiric on 2011-12-21 09:29:00
Can you quote the game and tell me where it says that because I don't remember that. :/ lol If he had already won before, he wouldn't have just made some place of evil to rule, he'd be ruling EVERYTHING, right?
Reposiric on 2011-12-21 09:32:00
Nevermind. Autydi just reminded me that the prologue of A Link to the Past says that Ganon was sealed in the dark realm by the Seven Wise Men a long time ago...That could explain that Link failed and then somehow the 7 Sages still found themselves and stopped Ganon themselves.
Decimo anonimo on 2011-12-21 09:36:00
Well, this time line sound pretty, good, except for the part of Link to the past and Zelda II, wich are suppose to be the last in the series in both time lines.
A third time line, actually i was thinking about it, "why where you thinking about it, there is nothing that could probe is true, much less there wasnt even a hint to happen", well, maybe something called Triforce and a timeline split in two sounds not like the series at all, besides, those two time lines represent and are past and future, several people have been said it, isnt?, so, what happened to the present? if there is a present, because time is pretty confusing and i could be using that as an excuse. But i have been asking, there is a Past and a Future, but where is the Present? or better, now that there is a third time line, wich is wich? wich is past, wich is present and wich is future? and that third time line now can change and make more sence to the time line and give us a better use, for example, in that thir line could fit the first legend of zelda, why? because.... hem... i dont know... but could fit
I want to have this book now!!! is there a release date for the rest of the world? when? how much?
Autydi on 2011-12-21 09:44:00
I have not seen a release date for the rest of the world yet. As soon as I find out -- I will be sure to let everyone know.
Jarkes on 2011-12-21 09:44:00
As I said on Zelda Universe, we all know that this book will never be released stateside or in Europe.
Jarkes on 2011-12-21 09:46:00
Also, Four Swords Adventures being placed at the end of Timeline B doesn't make sense, as it has a completely different backstory for Ganon, and it's implied that he actually became Ganon for the first time in that game. I honestly think FSA isn't canon because of all the continuity errors it creates.
Ande on 2011-12-21 09:47:00
shouldn't be four swords just before four swords adventures? because i was thinking FS link is the same link in FSA
zeldafan139 on 2011-12-21 10:57:00
I played most of the games but I don't really remember the back stories and every thing else. Is there any inconsistencies?
ShadeNinja on 2011-12-21 11:19:00
This doesn't make sense unless Majora's mask fits into the timeline where the hero fails. That is the only way it works. This can't be correct.
matt on 2011-12-21 11:20:00
The triple timeline is logically sound.
Link collects the sacred stones. Ganondorf's army storms castle town. Link opens the door and pulls the Master sword. Ganondorf enters the sacred realm and obtains the Triforce of Power. Link awakens 7 years later and continues his adventure, traveling through time with the Master Sword between the future focal point and the past focal point (gate is opened, Ganondorf took Triforce of Power). At the end, after Ganon is defeated and sealed in the sacred realm, Zelda sends Link back in time via the Ocarina of Time & Master Sword, creating THREE splits :
C - Ganon was defeated and sealed. He breaks the seal. Link is gone. Hyrule is flooded, WW, PH, ST.
B - Link is sent back to BEFORE the gate is opened. Ganondorf has yet to attack castle town. Link tells Zelda all the stuff, Ganondorf is sentenced to execution... divine prank, MM, TP, FSA.
A - Throughout the game, Link travels between the two aforementioned focal points. In the end, Zelda used the Ocarina of Time to skip Link over the past focal point the Master Sword is bound to send him. This means that Link was physically removed from the Master Sword time travel cycle, creating a third split where the gate was opened, Ganondorf got the Triforce of Power, but Link is gone, leading to The Imprisoning War, LTTP, Oracles, LA, LOZ, AoL.
Oyiu on 2011-12-21 11:25:00
Where can I buy this artbook?
Twister92 on 2011-12-21 11:38:00
I don't believe the timeline works like that. It was hard enough to accept the dual split-timeline, or even that there was more than one Link.
AlexBC on 2011-12-21 11:53:00
spliting into 3 timelines doesnt make sense, as the lttp timeline would thus be negated because it never happened due to link being there. it would make much more sense if you tokk the entire LTTP part, and put it after 4 swords adventue. mainly because it introduced when ganon got his signature weapon in Lttp and so on, the trident.
TobieoBrown on 2011-12-21 11:55:00
"This doesn't make sense unless Majora's mask fits into the timeline where the hero fails. That is the only way it works. This can't be correct."
No, in the childhood timeline Link is sent back 7 years, warns Zelda and the King about Ganondorf, and then leaves Hyrule to look for Navi. Ganondorf is put on trial and executed (as seen in Twilight Princess) and the events of Majora's Mask transpire.
The only discrepancy of note in this timeline is the Master Sword, which jumps around and is said to be created by three different people on three separate occasions: the Hylians (ALttP manual), the Sages (TP), or Link (SS).
Reposiric on 2011-12-21 12:53:00
So where are the CDi Zelda games? lmao
zeldafan1982 on 2011-12-21 12:58:00
Well, after the.. initial shock of a triple-split, I think that it is actually an elegant timeline. Even a standard double-split timeline, requires that the Link from the ALttP backstory fails, and thus Ganon collects all three pieces before the Sages manage to seal him by themselves in the Dark World. Of course, the actual text doesn't mention a Link appearing at the time, but according to OoT if an unbalanced person touches the Triforce, it splits, so looking at the ALttP backstory retroactively, the ToC has to go to Link. I think this was more or less what theorists willing to look the Seal War retroactively had in mind. What NoJ says, is that this Link is actually OoT Link in a parallel universe. Not a bad idea imo..
KeyroTono on 2011-12-21 16:02:00
Ummm, If Link fails and Ganon gets to rule freely... then why is A Link to the Past in the fail branch? Ganon was sealed away by the 7 Sages and thats why the wizard, Agahnim, tries to free him...
Ent on 2011-12-21 17:07:00
Link can fail, by having to go back in time once, leaving one timeline to be ruled by Ganon, yet A Link to the Past can be in the fail branch because enough of the sages would have been awakened for the final sage to be awakened. Don't forget that at least one of the sages, Darunia, is a fighter. If Impa was saved before the final sage, Nabooru, was awakened, Darunia and Impa might be able to defeat Twinrova. Heck, Zelda as Sheik might be able to do so as well if some of the artwork is to be considered. She could get the Mirror Shield and defeat Twinrova and then the sages can face down Ganon and seal him since they don't have any weapons that can really kill him.
Guest on 2011-12-22 08:36:00
This makes sense...
HYRULE A - Ganondorf raids Hyrule. Young Link opens the gate.
HYRULE B - 7 years after Hyrule A. Adult Link Defeats Ganon.
HYRULE C - Ganondorf sentenced to death before he raids Hyrule.
Link travels between A and B throughout the story. At the end, Zelda removes Link from both A and B and puts him in C :
HYRULE A - Ganon 'wins'... but is eventually defeated in the Imprisoning war.
HYRULE B - Zelda redeems her stupidity... Hyrule is destroyed in the Great Flood.
HYRULE C - Link gets his childhood back... becomes an unfulfilled Hero Shade.
The all get their way, but are all screwed regardless.
SKizzUMATIK on 2013-01-23 08:14:00
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